[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some FLAC albums won't play on LMS

[eduardoo]

Out of my over 10k albums indexed on LMS, there are a few that won't
play on LMS. When I try to play them, it would display an error message
saying "Can't open file for...". The files themselves seem pretty
normal. They're 16/44 files, with metadata displayed perfectly on LMS,
and play fine directly on my computer on my phone, but won't play via
LMS to Squeezelite or to the computer or phone via LMS DLNA plugin. I
tried rescanning the whole library and it does not seem to be an
indexing issue. I normally set LMS to transcode flac to wav (for a
slight SQ benefit), but when I set it to play flac natively, the files
would play. I can't see why these particular files can't be
transcoded.

Any idea what could be causing that?

Thanks.


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[philippe_44]

Post by eduardoo
Out of my over 10k albums indexed on LMS, there are a few that won't
play on LMS. When I try to play them, it would display an error message
saying "Can't open file for...". The files themselves seem pretty
normal. They're 16/44 files, with metadata displayed perfectly on LMS,
and play fine directly on my computer on my phone, but won't play via
LMS to Squeezelite or to the computer or phone via LMS DLNA plugin. I
tried rescanning the whole library and it does not seem to be an
indexing issue. I normally set LMS to transcode flac to wav (for a
slight SQ benefit), but when I set it to play flac natively, the files
would play. I can't see why these particular files can't be
transcoded.
Any idea what could be causing that?
Thanks.

You should post a server log. When you mention LMS DLNA plugin, do you
mean UPnP bridge? If you do, can you post a bridge log as well?



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[eduardoo]

Post by philippe_44
You should post a server log. When you mention LMS DLNA plugin, do you
mean UPnP bridge? If you do, can you post a bridge log as well?

Hi, Phillipe.

I didn't post a server log because there was no error listed in it. As
for the UPnP bridge, I just used it briefly for troubleshooting to see
if it is the renderer's problem or the server's problem. I usually just
use LMS to play to an SOTM SMS-100 which runs Squeezelite.

Thanks.


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[philippe_44]

Post by eduardoo
Hi, Phillipe.
I didn't post a server log because there was no error listed in it. As
for the UPnP bridge, I just used it briefly for troubleshooting to see
if it is the renderer's problem or the server's problem. I usually just
use LMS to play to an SOTM SMS-100 which runs Squeezelite.
Thanks.

Even when activating transcoding/player streaming logs?



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[eduardoo]

Post by philippe_44
Even when activating transcoding/player streaming logs?

What's this? How do I go about finding it?
Thanks.


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[drmatt]

And you've stopped transcoding to wav to see if it's the software decode
step that's failing .. ? .. (which should be inaudible unless you are
utterly mangling the sample rate or bit depth during this transcode
step).


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[eduardoo]

Post by drmatt
And you've stopped transcoding to wav to see if it's the software decode
step that's failing .. ? .. (which should be inaudible unless you are
utterly mangling the sample rate or bit depth during this transcode
step).
-Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk-

Yes, set to playing flac natively, those files play fine. As for the
audibility issue, transcoding to wav does seem to sound slightly better
(although there's no strong reason why. Perhaps playing flac strains the
renderer more than playing wav?), and apparently I'm not the only one
who hears that way.


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[bpa]

Perhaps playing flac strains the renderer more than playing wav?

IIRC This possibility was tested on Touch. CPU load is higher when
playing WAV than Flac possibly because of higher network traffic, more
packets, less space for buffering etc.


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[Mike Sargent]

Post by bpa
IIRC This possibility was tested on Touch. CPU load is higher when
playing WAV than Flac possibly because of higher network traffic, more
packets, less space for buffering etc.

WAV is less compressed than FLAC (about 2 to 3 times larger typically),
so WAV will use more network traffic, with more packets, and less space
for buffering. FLAC will be much easier on the I/O subsystem (network or
disk if reading directly), and will only require more CPU (although with
less input data it may end up being a wash).

Mike


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[drmatt]

Post by eduardoo
Yes, set to playing flac natively, those files play fine. As for the
audibility issue, transcoding to wav does seem to sound slightly better
(although there's no strong reason why. Perhaps playing flac strains the
renderer more than playing wav?), and apparently I'm not the only one
who hears that way.Usually this comes down to those particular files containing a different

type of tag, or are set to a different bit depth or sample rate from the
others. I'm not going to comment on the audibility, I've been using
spdif for years and don't rely on the built in DACs.


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[eduardoo]

Post by eduardoo
Usually this comes down to those particular files containing a different
type of tag, or are set to a different bit depth or sample rate from the
others. I'm not going to comment on the audibility other than to say
there shouldn't be any reason at all, but I've been using spdif for
years and don't rely on the built in DACs anyway.
-Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk-

BTW, FYI, I'm playing through an SOTM SMS-100 running squeezelite
(connected to network switch with CAT7 cable, LMS running on a QNAP NAS
connected to the same switch), with its USB output connected to an
Esoteric K-03 as DAC.
I retried a back to back listening test between going flac direct and
wav transcoded this morning. There is still a subtle but audible
difference (though I do acknowledge that there's hardly any technical
reason for this), but whether it's better or worse either way would
probably be down to listener's preference. untranscoded is slightly
warmer and transcoded is slightly more open. The difference seems to be
much less than what I remembered during the days when I was using an SBT
as the renderer. I'm leaving it on FLAC direct for now to see if I can
"live with it" in the longer run, and save the trouble with the problem
tracks.

Thanks again.


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[bpa]

I can't see why these particular files can't be transcoded.

Enable logging player.source to DEBUG to see why transcoding is failing
(i.e it will show which rules failed).

Enable logging player.source, note time at start of test, do test, note
time at end of test. Copy ALL log entries between start and end time to
a text file, zip and attach to a post. Use a hard or soft player but
not a bridge to avoid complications.


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[eduardoo]

Post by bpa
Enable logging player.source to DEBUG to see why transcoding is failing
(i.e it will show which rules failed).
Enable logging player.source, note time at start of test, do test, note
time at end of test. Copy ALL log entries between start and end time to
a text file, zip and attach to a post. Use a hard or soft player but
not a bridge to avoid complications.

Will try that some time. Thanks.


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[drmatt]

I wonder if your transcode is resampling? That would be the one and only
reason it might sound different.


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[Mnyb]

Post by drmatt
I wonder if your transcode is resampling? That would be the one and only
reason it might sound different.
-Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk-

Exact resampling can be setup in varius ways trough SoX diffrent
filterslopes and actually some margins added can change the volume.

But the typical disable native flac in lms does nothng that advanced .

Then there is RG tags they disapear , so if the player supports
replaygain like the Touch do volume diff can be huge WAV being louder .
But you can also disable the whole RG funktion in LMS with a setting .

But it is bizzare that smenflac files wont play.

I would flac encode them again using aproved flac tools to level -5 and
have a look at the tags.
There was some tools the past that produced very odd flac files with
compressionratios beyound -8 this os not well supported .

What are OP using to rip these files ?

Regarding tags only keep the vorbis comments id3v tags should not be in
flac files .

IF OP is doing sigthed tests then there is the usual human perceptual
errors and biases involved( that we cant escape none of us ).
So it’s only telling us about the personal experience in that moment not
whats relly is going on.



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[Mnyb]

Btw is there any tools invoved making per track flac files from one big
album flac file with cue sheet ?

I have learned that one should use cue-tools flacon or anything but
”medieval cue splitter” that tool. n corrupt the files ?



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[Paul Webster]

Post by Mnyb
Btw is there any tools invoved making per track flac files from one big
album flac file with cue sheet ?
I have learned that one should use cue-tools flacon or anything but
”medieval cue splitter” that tool. n corrupt the files ?

Some suggestions over at
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=174184
Regarding "corrupt" files ... according to that thread some of the tools
and a self-promoting tag to the newly generated file - so not really
corrupting and you could remove the tag with other tools (or try one of
the other tools in that thread that do not appear to add stuff).



Paul Webster
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[Mnyb]

Post by Paul Webster
Some suggestions over at
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=174184
Regarding "corrupt" files ... according to that thread some of the tools
and a self-promoting tag to the newly generated file - so not really
corrupting and you could remove the tag with other tools (or try one of
the other tools in that thread that do not appear to add stuff).

Thats interesting , but I've heard worse about medieval about effing
about with gapless etc .

...Now everyone wants me to provide sources for this, sorry :/



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[eduardoo]

Hi all,

Here is the log during failed playback of the files which are otherwise
playable when playing flac direct and not transcoded.

Thanks.


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[bpa]

Post by eduardoo
Hi all,
Here is the log during failed playback of the files which are otherwise
playable when playing flac direct and not transcoded.
I also did a little testing by converting those flac files to flac again
using Foobar. While Foobar reported corrupt files after converting,
those new files actually play fine on LMS even when transcoded.
Interesting.
Thanks.

From the log.
The error in red usually means the command line at
"tokenizeConvertCommand2 (617) Using command for conversion" in blue
failed for some reason so check the command below (i.e. no c or s
option) at a shell prompt and see what error message Flac throw up.
"/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/Bin/i386-linux/flac"
-d --force-raw-format --endian=little --sign=signed --
"/share/Multimedia/Music/Art Farmer And The Jazz Giants/FLAC - Art
Farmer_And The Jazz Giants/12.Downwind.flac" test.raw


Code:
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[18-03-16 14:14:53.9649] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (446) Matched: flc->pcm via: [flac] -dcs --force-raw-format --endian=little --sign=signed $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$
[18-03-16 14:14:53.9657] Slim::Player::Song::open (408) Transcoder: streamMode=F, streamformat=pcm
[18-03-16 14:14:53.9673] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::tokenizeConvertCommand2 (617) Using command for conversion: "/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/Bin/i386-linux/flac" -dcs --force-raw-format --endian=little --sign=signed -- "/share/Multimedia/Music/Art Farmer And The Jazz Giants/FLAC - Art Farmer_And The Jazz Giants/12.Downwind.flac" & |
[18-03-16 14:14:53.9681] Slim::Player::Song::open (558) Tokenized command: "/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/Bin/i386-linux/flac" -dcs --force-raw-format --endian=little --sign=signed -- "/share/Multimedia/Music/Art Farmer And The Jazz Giants/FLAC - Art Farmer_And The Jazz Giants/12.Downwind.flac" & |
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0443] Slim::Player::SongStreamController::new (31) live=1
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0463] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1265) 00:04:20:8a:0e:26: stream
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0526] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1302) Song queue is now 11
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0536] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState (2357) new playing state BUFFERING
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0543] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2366) new streaming state STREAMING
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0550] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (303) 00:04:20:8a:0e:26: NextTrackReady - new state BUFFERING-STREAMING
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0562] Slim::Player::Song::DESTROY (160) DESTROY(Slim::Player::Song=ARRAY(0xf403a40)) live=9: index=10, url=file:///share/Multimedia/Music/Art%20Farmer%20And%20The%20Jazz%20Giants/FLAC%20-%20Art%20Farmer_And%20The%20Jazz%20Giants/11.A%20Night%20at%20Tony%27s.flac
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0725] Slim::Player::Source::_readNextChunk (350) Read to end of file or pipe
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0732] Slim::Player::Source::_readNextChunk (373) end of file or error on socket, song pos: 16666624
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0739] Slim::Player::Source::_readNextChunk (378) 00:04:20:8a:0e:26 mark end of stream
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0746] Slim::Player::Source::_readNextChunk (386) Didn't stream any bytes for this song; mark it as failed

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[eduardoo]

Post by bpa
From the log.
The error in red usually means the command line at
"tokenizeConvertCommand2 (617) Using command for conversion" in blue
failed for some reason so check the command below (i.e. no c or s
option) at a shell prompt and see what error message Flac throw up.
"/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/Bin/i386-linux/flac"
-dc --force-raw-format --endian=little --sign=signed --
"/share/Multimedia/Music/Art Farmer And The Jazz Giants/FLAC - Art
Farmer_And The Jazz Giants/12.Downwind.flac" >test.raw

Code:
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Post by bpa
[18-03-16 14:14:53.9649] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (446) Matched: flc->pcm via: [flac] -dcs --force-raw-format --endian=little --sign=signed $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$
[18-03-16 14:14:53.9657] Slim::Player::Song::open (408) Transcoder: streamMode=F, streamformat=pcm
[18-03-16 14:14:53.9673] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::tokenizeConvertCommand2 (617) Using command for conversion: "/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/Bin/i386-linux/flac" -dcs --force-raw-format --endian=little --sign=signed -- "/share/Multimedia/Music/Art Farmer And The Jazz Giants/FLAC - Art Farmer_And The Jazz Giants/12.Downwind.flac" & |
[18-03-16 14:14:53.9681] Slim::Player::Song::open (558) Tokenized command: "/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/Bin/i386-linux/flac" -dcs --force-raw-format --endian=little --sign=signed -- "/share/Multimedia/Music/Art Farmer And The Jazz Giants/FLAC - Art Farmer_And The Jazz Giants/12.Downwind.flac" & |
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0443] Slim::Player::SongStreamController::new (31) live=1
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0463] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1265) 00:04:20:8a:0e:26: stream
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0526] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1302) Song queue is now 11
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0536] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState (2357) new playing state BUFFERING
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0543] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2366) new streaming state STREAMING
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0550] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (303) 00:04:20:8a:0e:26: NextTrackReady - new state BUFFERING-STREAMING
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0562] Slim::Player::Song::DESTROY (160) DESTROY(Slim::Player::Song=ARRAY(0xf403a40)) live=9: index=10, url=file:///share/Multimedia/Music/Art%20Farmer%20And%20The%20Jazz%20Giants/FLAC%20-%20Art%20Farmer_And%20The%20Jazz%20Giants/11.A%20Night%20at%20Tony%27s.flac
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0725] Slim::Player::Source::_readNextChunk (350) Read to end of file or pipe
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0732] Slim::Player::Source::_readNextChunk (373) end of file or error on socket, song pos: 16666624
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0739] Slim::Player::Source::_readNextChunk (378) 00:04:20:8a:0e:26 mark end of stream
[18-03-16 14:14:54.0746] Slim::Player::Source::_readNextChunk (386) Didn't stream any bytes for this song; mark it as failed

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Sorry, I'm not good at all with this Linux stuff. So, can you please be
more specific as to what is wrong and what exactly I am supposed to do?

Thanks.


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[bpa]

Post by eduardoo
Sorry, I'm not good at all with this Linux stuff. So, can you please be
more specific as to what is wrong and what exactly I am supposed to do?
Thanks.

I don't know what's wrong. My guess is the transcoding command line is
failiing for some reason. To test this theory, run the following
command from a shell prompt and see if it produces an error message. If
it runs OK it will generate a RAW file called test.raw

Code:
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"/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/Bin/i386-linux/flac" -dc --force-raw-format --endian=little --sign=signed -- "/share/Multimedia/Music/Art Farmer And The Jazz Giants/FLAC - Art Farmer_And The Jazz Giants/12.Downwind.flac" >test.raw

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[eduardoo]

Post by bpa
I don't know what's wrong. My guess is the transcoding command line is
failiing for some reason. To test this theory, run the following
command from a shell prompt and see if it produces an error message. If
it runs OK it will generate a RAW file called test.raw

Code:
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Post by bpa
"/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/Bin/i386-linux/flac" -dc --force-raw-format --endian=little --sign=signed -- "/share/Multimedia/Music/Art Farmer And The Jazz Giants/FLAC - Art Farmer_And The Jazz Giants/12.Downwind.flac" >test.raw

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Hi.

I tried inputting that command on a terminal started with Winscp. As
soon as I entered, a swirling circle came up for a while and then it
says it lost connection. Probably more about me doing something wrong
with the test than the actual outcome of the test?


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[bpa]

Post by eduardoo
Hi.
I tried inputting that command on a terminal started with Winscp. As
soon as I entered, a swirling circle came up for a while and then it
says it lost connection. Probably more about me doing something wrong
with the test than the actual outcome of the test?

As devils' advocate - it could also indicate there is something odd in
your network more likely the command wasn't entered correctly e.g.
misplaced/unmatched quote chars, line too long for window or even it is
a version of the same error that happens when you try to play the track
on LMS.


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Post by eduardoo
Hi all,
I also did a little testing by converting those flac files to flac again
using Foobar. While Foobar reported corrupt files after converting,
those new files actually play fine on LMS even when transcoded.
Interesting.
Thanks.

..So there could be something up with the files themselfs , actually
interesting . how did you get those files in tyhe first place.



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[eduardoo]

Thanks for the advice. I took extra care inputting the command and was
able to have it executed on the problem track as well as on a normal
track.

Here is the output of the problem track:

/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer$
"SlimServer/Bin/i386-linux/flac" -dc --force-raw-format --endian=little
--sign=signed -- "/share/Multimedia/Music/Art Farmer And The Jazz
Giants/FLAC - Art Farmer_And The Jazz Giants/12.Downwind.flac"

Post by bpa
test.raw

flac 1.2.1, Copyright (C) 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007 Josh
Coalson
flac comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you
are
welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. Type `flac' for
details.

12.Downwind.flac: *** Got error code
0:FLAC__STREAM_DECODER_ERROR_STATUS_LOST_SYNC


12.Downwind.flac: ERROR while decoding data
state = FLAC__STREAM_DECODER_READ_FRAME


***********
--- and the output of the normal one:

/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer$
"SlimServer/Bin/i386-linux/flac" -dc --force-raw-format --endian=little
--sign=signed -- "/share/Multimedia/Music/Ann Hampton Callaway\FLAC -
To Ella With Love/01. Let's Fall in Love.flac" >test.raw

flac 1.2.1, Copyright (C) 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007 Josh
Coalson
flac comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you
are
welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. Type `flac' for
details.


01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: ERROR initializing decoder
init status =
FLAC__STREAM_DECODER_INIT_STATUS_ERROR_OPENING_FILE

An error occurred opening the input file; it is likely that it does not
exist
or is not readable.
/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer$
"SlimServer/Bin/i386-linux/flac" -dc --force-raw-format --endian=little
--sign=signed -- "/share/Multimedia/Music/Ann Hampton Callaway/FLAC -
To Ella With Love/01. Let's Fall in Love.flac" >test.raw

flac 1.2.1, Copyright (C) 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007 Josh
Coalson
flac comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you
are
welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. Type `flac' for
details.

01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 4% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 7%
complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 11% complete01. Let's Fall in
Love.flac: 14% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 18% complete01.
Let's Fall in Love.flac: 21% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 25%
complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 28% complete01. Let's Fall in
Love.flac: 32% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 35% complete01.
Let's Fall in Love.flac: 39% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 42%
complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 46% complete01. Let's Fall in
Love.flac: 49% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 53% complete01.
Let's Fall in Love.flac: 56% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 60%
complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 63% complete01. Let's Fall in
Love.flac: 67% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 70% complete01.
Let's Fall in Love.flac: 74% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 77%
complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 81% complete01. Let's Fall in
Love.flac: 84% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 88% complete01.
Let's Fall in Love.flac: 91% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 95%
complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 99% complete01. Let's Fall in
Love.flac: 100% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: done


So, it does seem that something went wrong with the problem track.


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Post by eduardoo
Thanks for the advice. I took extra care inputting the command and was
able to have it executed on the problem track as well as on a normal
track.
/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer$
"SlimServer/Bin/i386-linux/flac" -dc --force-raw-format --endian=little
--sign=signed -- "/share/Multimedia/Music/Art Farmer And The Jazz
Giants/FLAC - Art Farmer_And The Jazz Giants/12.Downwind.flac" >test.raw
flac 1.2.1, Copyright (C) 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007 Josh
Coalson
flac comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you
are
welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. Type `flac' for
details.
12.Downwind.flac: *** Got error code
0:FLAC__STREAM_DECODER_ERROR_STATUS_LOST_SYNC
12.Downwind.flac: ERROR while decoding data
state = FLAC__STREAM_DECODER_READ_FRAME
***********
/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer$
"SlimServer/Bin/i386-linux/flac" -dc --force-raw-format --endian=little
--sign=signed -- "/share/Multimedia/Music/Ann Hampton Callaway\FLAC -
To Ella With Love/01. Let's Fall in Love.flac" >test.raw
flac 1.2.1, Copyright (C) 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007 Josh
Coalson
flac comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you
are
welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. Type `flac' for
details.
01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: ERROR initializing decoder
init status =
FLAC__STREAM_DECODER_INIT_STATUS_ERROR_OPENING_FILE
An error occurred opening the input file; it is likely that it does not
exist
or is not readable.
/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer$
"SlimServer/Bin/i386-linux/flac" -dc --force-raw-format --endian=little
--sign=signed -- "/share/Multimedia/Music/Ann Hampton Callaway/FLAC -
To Ella With Love/01. Let's Fall in Love.flac" >test.raw
flac 1.2.1, Copyright (C) 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007 Josh
Coalson
flac comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you
are
welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. Type `flac' for
details.
01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 4% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 7%
complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 11% complete01. Let's Fall in
Love.flac: 14% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 18% complete01.
Let's Fall in Love.flac: 21% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 25%
complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 28% complete01. Let's Fall in
Love.flac: 32% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 35% complete01.
Let's Fall in Love.flac: 39% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 42%
complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 46% complete01. Let's Fall in
Love.flac: 49% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 53% complete01.
Let's Fall in Love.flac: 56% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 60%
complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 63% complete01. Let's Fall in
Love.flac: 67% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 70% complete01.
Let's Fall in Love.flac: 74% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 77%
complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 81% complete01. Let's Fall in
Love.flac: 84% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 88% complete01.
Let's Fall in Love.flac: 91% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 95%
complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: 99% complete01. Let's Fall in
Love.flac: 100% complete01. Let's Fall in Love.flac: done
So, it does seem that something went wrong with the problem track.

The simple way just to check if the file can be decoded by the LMS Flac
is to use the "-t" option.


Code:
--------------------

"/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/SlimServer/Bin/i386-linux/flac" -t name_of_file_to_be_tested.flc

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Post by Mnyb
Thats interesting , but I've heard worse about medieval about effing
about with gapless etc .

And I've seen worse. I never really bothered how and under which
circumstances it messes up the files, but it does.



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Post by Mnyb
Btw is there any tools invoved making per track flac files from one big
album flac file with cue sheet ?
I have learned that one should use cue-tools flacon or anything but
”medieval cue splitter” that tool. n corrupt the files ?

Foobar2000 will do this.


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I had to write some scripts to load id3 tag data and rewrite it back as
vorbis tags. One or two older taggers defaulted to id3, I don't use
those now.


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Between minuses converted to "long dash", quotes lost in translation and
line breaks becoming, well, line breaks, there are a large number of
ways this command might not make it intact to where you want it to be
run.

However I'd also question winscp's terminal behaviour, I've never
actually used that so don't know its semantics. The connection should
not drop even if the remote shell is very busy (which it would be.. very
busy transcoding the file).


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Post by drmatt
Between minuses converted to "long dash", quotes lost in translation and
line breaks becoming, well, line breaks, there are a large number of
ways this command might not make it intact to where you want it to be
run.
However I'd also question winscp's terminal behaviour, I've never
actually used that so don't know its semantics. The connection should
not drop even if the remote shell is very busy (which it would be.. very
busy transcoding the file).
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On WinSCP terminal mode. If it’s been set up correctly you right click
on the connection name and do “Open in Putty” and it opens Putty. There
is no other terminal that I am aware of but I could be wrong.



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Fair enough. Putty is ubiquitous, functional, and yet utterly appalling.
Why the hell has the windows world not moved on from putty?


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Post by drmatt
Fair enough. Putty is ubiquitous, functional, and yet utterly appalling.
Why the hell has the windows world not moved on from putty?

This is OT - the OP got command line OK and has tested the file. Problem
is restricted to specific files.

wrt Putty - Unlike X - Windows windowing system was not designed to be
remote from PC. A long time ago Citrix had licensed access to Windows
source code and so did original remote clients. A lot of later Windows
remote clients were implemented using the pixels of a windows display.
Not sure how today's remote tech works but MS keeps tight control.


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Yep, sorry, OT. Find myself having to use putty all the time, but all I
do is work around it.


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Post by drmatt
Yep, sorry, OT. Find myself having to use putty all the time, but all I
do is work around it.

Not sure what you mean use Putty and then work around it. It is a remote
ssh connection and so functionality is that of Windows command prompt
but is accessible from all OS's that support ssh and it's security is
known.
Without paying for additional s/w, to do a GUI connection to a Windows
system I think you need a second Windows system and then use Windows
Remote Desktop Connection - security used to be a bit dodgy - I'd hope
it's better nowadays .


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(still OT.. I'm a Unix admin forced to use a Windows client, putty is
painful when sessions drop and the window vanishes, configuring it is
painful, putty's scp is functional but very very slow, I'm just
surprised that it doesn't get more development effort given how
widespread its use seems to be.)


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Post by drmatt
(still OT.. I'm a Unix admin forced to use a Windows client, putty is
painful when sessions drop and the window vanishes, configuring it is
painful, putty's scp is functional but very very slow, I'm just
surprised that it doesn't get more development effort given how
widespread its use seems to be.)

(to make this even more OT: install cygwin and openssh. First thing I do
on a Windows system I have to use :-))

[reinholdk]

Post by Michael Herger
(to make this even more OT: install cygwin and openssh. First thing I do
on a Windows system I have to use :-))

Sorry, keeping it OT.
Some alternatives (only used WSL up to now):
- Microsoft is now providing an OpenSSH implementation:
https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/powershell/2017/12/15/using-the-openssh-beta-in-windows-10-fall-creators-update-and-windows-server-1709/
- Microsoft's Windows Subsystem for Linux allows you to install certain
Linux distributions directly on Windows:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10
- MobaXterm, a 3rd party Windows app: https://mobaxterm.mobatek.net/


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[Mnyb]

On the topic wonder if michael want sthese files .

They work on other aplications .

They dont work on LMS .

They work if you recode them to new flac files .

Files are not entirerly OK but at what level should LMS scan reject them
?



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Post by Mnyb
Files are not entirerly OK but at what level should LMS scan reject them

I didn't follow all of the discussion... but hasn't there in the past
been an issue if flac files were compressed at a high level? Could this
be the case here?

[Mnyb]

It's a bit more complicated natively they played fine .

It's when transcoding to wav/pcm they don't work , until you reecode
them to flac again.

So OP has 2 working solutions already .

Play them natively .

Reflac the offending files , which where not to many, most of his files
works just fine.


If these files represents some general case they migth be worth looking
at ? or is it just another corner case , I don't know .



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Post by Mnyb
It's when transcoding to wav/pcm they don't work

Oh, that might be the reason why I missed most of this thread. "Doctor,
doctor! When I slap my head, it hurts!" - "Then don't slap your head.".

[Mnyb]

Post by Michael Herger

Post by Mnyb
It's when transcoding to wav/pcm they don't work

Oh, that might be the reason why I missed most of this thread. "Doctor,
doctor! When I slap my head, it hurts!" - "Then don't slap your head.".
--
Michael

Yeah I totally get that :) but the same transcoding route could be
invoked in a more reasonable situation, for perfectly good reasons .

The upnp bridge or airplay etc comes to mind .

In this case it’s also “the NAS factor” it can be a peculiarity that
only happens on a certain QNAP



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