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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Squeezebox can't resolve IP Address or internet radio or Last.fm
Bearfaced
2009-06-11 23:11:53 UTC
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Hi all

I have recently started getting an error with my squeezebox, possibly a
DNS error. I first noticed the problem on Sunday (7th June) night. When
I try to connect to a radio station saved in favourites I get a message
that my squeezebox couldn't resolve the IP address. When I look in the
logs there are lots of failed radio connections and I can't even resolve
Last.fm:

Error handshaking with Last.fm: Couldn't resolve IP address for:
post.audioscrobbler.com

I fixed the problem temporarily by installing the nightly build of
Version: 7.3.3 - 26751 but the day after the problem has returned. All
other devices on my network can resolve IP addresses fine including
other devices on my wireless network. I've also tried changing my
squeezebox from DHCP to a fixed IP so I can ensure the DNS entry is
listed as my router/gateway.

Any help would be gratefully recieved.

Cheers
Justin


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Bearfaced
2009-06-15 21:05:24 UTC
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Seems it does it after the PC is powered off but if I restart
SqueezeCenter it all starts working again even though streaming music
from the HD works all the time.


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jrichardson
2009-06-15 22:54:13 UTC
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Please upgrade to SqueezeCenter 7.3.3 r27044

Then tell me if you still get errors.

Also;
who is your ISP
what type of services to you have (dsl/idsn/cable)
what country are you in
what is the model of your ISP provided equipment and/or home router


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Buz
2009-06-19 19:37:30 UTC
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Same issue here. After upgrading to 7.3.3 (on Ubuntu 9.04), SC can't
resolve IP addresses after boot. Restarting the server solves the
problem until next reboot. I upgraded to 7.3.4-r27120, but no
improvement. Switching to SqueezeNetwork works fine. The DNS problems
seem to be limited to SC, since the rest of the system does not show any
issues.

I also tried to move the start of SC to the end of the init process of
runlevel 2 (because I suspected that SC is now starting faster and maybe
the init of the network service was not finished), but there was no
improvement.


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janm
2009-06-20 00:26:03 UTC
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Hi,

I'm seeing the same problem on Windows XP after upgrading to 7.3.3.
Looking at the logs and at old logs, I see that DNS was failing on the
earlier version, but it was falling back to OpenDNS. OpenDNS then
successfully resolved the names.

Stopping and restarting squeezeserver resolves the problem with 7.3.3.

DNS on the local network is provided by a caching resolver on a Netcomm
NB5 ADSL modem. It is connected via ethernet, and the interface is
configured using DHCP.

Speculation: Squeezeserver is getting the list of DNS servers too early
in the boot process, and is caching the DNS server list. The log
entries include this: "(Couldn't resolve IP address for:
update.squeezenetwork.com), will try again in 10 minutes." These repeat
at progressively larger intervals, continuing to fail. This is
consistent with asking the wrong DNS server for the answer.

Hmm. I just had a look at the source.

In /7.3/trunk/server/Slim/Networking/Async/DNS.pm in the online svn
repository, there is a bunch of code that provides a DNS name cache and
also caches resolver IP addresses after "testing" them. The DNS cache
honours TTL in the responses which is something, but it never deals with
changes to the list of configured responders. It also considers
failures to with local responders during configuration to be
configuration errors rather than considering that they could just be
transient failures.

This attempt to work around user configuration errors actually causes
problems on systems with transient failures that are correctly
configured. An example of transient failures like this is network
interfaces being configured during startup. These problems were
previous masked by a second level of "assistance", namely falling back
to OpenDNS.

This module needs to deal with changes with the resolver list during
operation. Once it does that, given that it already does parallel
queries against all known resolvers, there is no need to test resolvers.
If a resolver is failing, it doesn't matter anyway and it the resolver
had a transient failure it will not be falsely ignored.


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murrayp
2009-06-20 09:57:15 UTC
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Thanks janm for your work on this. I upgraded to 7.3.3 yesterday and
saw similar problems with DNS errors preventing all network radio, but
when I couldn't find any posts about this issue I assumed it was
something screwed up at my end. I downgraded back to 7.3.2 and
everything is working fine again.

Like you I'm running this under XP, I use OpenDNS and my ADSL box
handles all the DNS stuff.


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BastiaanR
2009-06-20 10:26:12 UTC
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murrayp;433734 Wrote:
> Like you I'm running this under XP, I use OpenDNS and my ADSL box
> handles all the DNS stuff.

And what happens if you do NOT use OpenDNS in combination with 7.3.3?
I'm assuming you manually entered the OpenDNS addresses in your modem?


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janm
2009-06-21 03:39:10 UTC
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BastiaanR;433748 Wrote:
> And what happens if you do NOT use OpenDNS in combination with 7.3.3?
> I'm assuming you manually entered the OpenDNS addresses in your modem?

I do not use OpenDNS in combination with 7.3.3 and I see the same
problem as murrayp. The relevance of OpenDNS is that the 7.3.2 code
used the OpenDNS resolvers directly using the OpenDNS IP addresses
embedded in the code. Using OpenDNS front ended by a caching resolver
on an ADSL modem should make no difference.

The test code can consider a server "failed" for many reasons. For
example, the code queries for the names a.root-servers.net through to
m.root-servers.net. This will work if connectivity is available to the
resolver even if the resolver doesn't have internet connectivity if the
resolver is configured to have that name. That is true for BIND, but it
is not true for some other DNS servers like djbdns.

There will probably be multiple reasons for a resolver to be seen as
failed, and attempting to find and resolve those issues is not useful.


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NigelC
2009-06-22 10:22:14 UTC
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I seem to have the same or similar problem.

The Extension dowloader can't find the repositories - can't resolve the
Ip address for www.squeezenetwork.com or www.tux.org

When I look in the SC log, its full of similar messages - Can't resolve
IP address for .....

I've tried restarting the PC, doesnt help, but restarting squeezecenter
seems to fix it!

Nigel

Running 7.3.3 27044 on ubuntu 9.04


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callesoroe
2009-06-22 14:09:36 UTC
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Bearfaced;431374 Wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I have recently started getting an error with my squeezebox, possibly a
> DNS error. I first noticed the problem on Sunday (7th June) night. When
> I try to connect to a radio station saved in favourites I get a message
> that my squeezebox couldn't resolve the IP address. When I look in the
> logs there are lots of failed radio connections and I can't even resolve
> Last.fm:
>
> Error handshaking with Last.fm: Couldn't resolve IP address for:
> post.audioscrobbler.com
>
> I fixed the problem temporarily by installing the nightly build of
> Version: 7.3.3 - 26751 but the day after the problem has returned. All
> other devices on my network can resolve IP addresses fine including
> other devices on my wireless network. I've also tried changing my
> squeezebox from DHCP to a fixed IP so I can ensure the DNS entry is
> listed as my router/gateway.
>
> Any help would be gratefully recieved.
>
> Cheers
> Justin

I have the same problem. I am running 7.3.3 on Readynas DUO. Problem
started after opgrading from 7.3.2 to 7.3.3


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KoxxBoxx
2009-06-22 15:03:44 UTC
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Same problem here after updating to 7.3.3 - 27044 on Ubuntu 9.04.
Restarting SC manually fixes the problem until reboot.

Time to file a bug report?


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jrichardson
2009-06-22 16:22:20 UTC
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KoxxBoxx: Yes, please file a bug, and summarize everything stated
here.

It appears to be a Linux only issue, as Windows and Mac users have not
reported this.


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philly4
2009-06-22 16:30:45 UTC
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Having same problem here. Every boot all things not on my computer
cannot be used, podcasts, napster, pandora, etc. etc. Started as soon
as I upgraded to he 7.3.3. I was using a nightly 7.3.3 before and
everything worked fine. After restarting squeezecenter, everything
works fine again.

Xubuntu 9.04
7.3.3 - 27044


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KoxxBoxx
2009-06-22 17:28:53 UTC
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jrichardson;434395 Wrote:
> KoxxBoxx: Yes, please file a bug, and summarize everything stated
> here.
>
> It appears to be a Linux only issue, as Windows and Mac users have not
> reported this.

I'm not an experienced bug-filer, but here we go:

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12487

Please comment if I forgot something...


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Celeritas
2009-06-23 05:03:33 UTC
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I can confirm that this also happens with Vista SP2. A restart of the
SqueezeCenter service fixes the problem until the next reboot.


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tedfroop
2009-06-23 05:32:47 UTC
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Another linux user,

Thank god I found this post... had me going in circles for a few hours
now. DNS is fine, SC can't see it at boot for whatever reason.

Reminds me why I usually don't upgrade for a week or two after release.


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callesoroe
2009-06-23 10:00:58 UTC
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tedfroop;434555 Wrote:
> Another linux user,
>
> Thank god I found this post... had me going in circles for a few hours
> now. DNS is fine, SC can't see it at boot for whatever reason.
>
> Reminds me why I usually don't upgrade for a week or two after release.

Downgraded to 7.3.2 again.


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citoyen
2009-06-23 10:31:20 UTC
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Very annoying.


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judkins
2009-06-23 10:38:31 UTC
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Problem occurs on my XP and Vista machines as well which are connected
via ethernet. I cannot connect to the internet anymore at all. Reboot of
my PC's though fixes the problem for me for a while?????
My third machine, netbook with XP installed works fine though via a
wireless connection.
Does stopping and restarting SC really work or should one rather not
start SC on startup, wait for all connections beeing established and
then start SC?


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jrichardson
2009-06-23 14:08:02 UTC
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Please try 7.3.4 change 27205. As long as /etc/resolv.conf is available
when
SC starts it should fix the problem.

Download the build from
here;http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.3

Report back in the bug and this list if it fixes the issue for you


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mbonsack
2009-06-23 15:24:45 UTC
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2009-06-23 08:16:16 squeezecenter_safe started.
[09-06-23 08:17:02.8008] main::init (270) Starting SqueezeCenter
(v7.3.4, r27120, Tue Jun 23 03:00:25 PDT 2009)
[09-06-23 08:17:32.8072]
Plugins::SuperDateTime::Plugin::gotErrorViaHTTP (5018) error getting
http://finance.yahoo.com/d/quotes.csv?s=&f=sl1d1t1c1ohgvpn&e=.csv
[09-06-23 08:17:32.8078]
Plugins::SuperDateTime::Plugin::gotErrorViaHTTP (5019) Couldn't resolve
IP address for: download.finance.yahoo.com
[09-06-23 08:17:37.8872]
Plugins::SuperDateTime::Plugin::gotErrorViaHTTP (5018) error getting
http://finance.yahoo.com/d/quotes.csv?s=&f=sl1d1t1c1ohgvpn&e=.csv
[09-06-23 08:17:37.8881]
Plugins::SuperDateTime::Plugin::gotErrorViaHTTP (5019) Couldn't resolve
IP address for: download.finance.yahoo.com
[09-06-23 08:17:44.9671] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (455)
Unable to login to SN: Couldn't resolve IP address for:
www.squeezenetwork.com
[09-06-23 08:17:44.9679] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error
(182) Unable to login to SqueezeNetwork, sync is disabled: Couldn't
resolve IP address for: www.squeezenetwork.com
[09-06-23 08:17:44.9689] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error
(192) SqueezeNetwork sync init failed: Couldn't resolve IP address for:
www.squeezenetwork.com, will retry in 300


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mbonsack
2009-06-23 15:39:09 UTC
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jrichardson;434649 Wrote:
> Please try 7.3.4 change 27205. As long as /etc/resolv.conf is available
> when
> SC starts it should fix the problem.
>
> Download the build from
> here;http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.3
>
> Report back in the bug and this list if it fixes the issue for you

The link points to squeezecenter_7.3.4~27120_all.deb, which seems to be
the same version I picked up via the debian testing repo. This version
does *not* seem to fix the problem. Can you point us to the 27205
version, or is the nightly referenced in the link above simply
mislabeled (i.e is the build above really 27205)?

Thanks! -mark


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jrichardson
2009-06-23 16:20:39 UTC
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mbonsack;434680 Wrote:
> The link points to squeezecenter_7.3.4~27120_all.deb, which seems to be
> the same version I picked up via the debian testing repo. This version
> does *not* seem to fix the problem. Can you point us to the 27205
> version, or is the nightly referenced in the link above simply
> mislabeled (i.e is the build above really 27205)?
>
> Thanks! -mark

Anything >27205 contains the fix. Can you report back in bug
[http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12475] with updated
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mbonsack
2009-06-23 16:35:33 UTC
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jrichardson;434688 Wrote:
> Anything >27205 contains the fix. Can you report back in bug
> [http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12475] with updated
> information

That's my point; just where can we *get* a version >= 27205? The link
provided seems to be an older (27120) version.


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Letten
2009-06-23 18:12:02 UTC
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Just wondering, why all this activity with the internet, whem I'm only
listening to local music files?

[09-06-23 19:09:16.0016] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::resolve (145)
Starting async DNS lookup for [www.squeezenetwork.com] using server(s)
[212.242.40.3, 212.242.40.51]
[09-06-23 19:09:16.0206] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::_dns_read (243)
Resolved www.squeezenetwork.com to 89.202.121.131 (ttl 109), request
took 18 ms
[09-06-23 19:10:48.0620] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::resolve (130)
Using cached DNS response 89.202.121.131 for www.squeezenetwork.com
[09-06-23 19:14:16.0026] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::resolve (145)
Starting async DNS lookup for [www.squeezenetwork.com] using server(s)
[212.242.40.3, 212.242.40.51]
[09-06-23 19:14:16.0209] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::_dns_read (243)
Resolved www.squeezenetwork.com to 89.202.121.131 (ttl 290), request
took 17 ms
[09-06-23 19:19:16.0027] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::resolve (145)
Starting async DNS lookup for [www.squeezenetwork.com] using server(s)
[212.242.40.3, 212.242.40.51]
[09-06-23 19:19:16.0302] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::_dns_read (243)
Resolved www.squeezenetwork.com to 89.202.121.131 (ttl 122), request
took 26 ms
[09-06-23 19:24:16.1327] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::resolve (145)
Starting async DNS lookup for [www.squeezenetwork.com] using server(s)
[212.242.40.3, 212.242.40.51]
[09-06-23 19:24:16.1760] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::_dns_read (243)
Resolved www.squeezenetwork.com to 89.202.121.131 (ttl 129), request
took 42 ms
[09-06-23 19:28:02.4721] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::resolve (145)
Starting async DNS lookup for [www.squeezenetwork.com] using server(s)
[212.242.40.3, 212.242.40.51]
[09-06-23 19:28:02.4923] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::_dns_read (243)
Resolved www.squeezenetwork.com to 89.202.121.131 (ttl 214), request
took 18 ms
[09-06-23 19:29:16.0025] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::resolve (130)
Using cached DNS response 89.202.121.131 for www.squeezenetwork.com
[09-06-23 19:34:16.0023] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::resolve (145)
Starting async DNS lookup for [www.squeezenetwork.com] using server(s)
[212.242.40.3, 212.242.40.51]
[09-06-23 19:34:16.0236] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::_dns_read (243)
Resolved www.squeezenetwork.com to 89.202.121.131 (ttl 2), request took
20 ms
[09-06-23 19:39:16.0015] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::resolve (145)
Starting async DNS lookup for [www.squeezenetwork.com] using server(s)
[212.242.40.3, 212.242.40.51]
[09-06-23 19:39:16.0219] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::_dns_read (243)
Resolved www.squeezenetwork.com to 66.150.114.115 (ttl 10), request took
19 ms
[09-06-23 19:44:16.0036] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::resolve (145)
Starting async DNS lookup for [www.squeezenetwork.com] using server(s)
[212.242.40.3, 212.242.40.51]
[09-06-23 19:44:16.0223] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::_dns_read (243)
Resolved www.squeezenetwork.com to 66.150.114.115 (ttl 12), request took
17 ms
[09-06-23 19:49:16.0015] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::resolve (145)
Starting async DNS lookup for [www.squeezenetwork.com] using server(s)
[212.242.40.3, 212.242.40.51]
[09-06-23 19:49:16.0225] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::_dns_read (243)
Resolved www.squeezenetwork.com to 89.202.121.131 (ttl 14), request took
20 ms
[09-06-23 19:54:16.0025] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::resolve (145)
Starting async DNS lookup for [www.squeezenetwork.com] using server(s)
[212.242.40.3, 212.242.40.51]
[09-06-23 19:54:16.0602] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::_dns_read (243)
Resolved www.squeezenetwork.com to 89.202.121.131 (ttl 171), request
took 56 ms

I have a squeezenetwork account, but I don't use it consciously.

In 7.3.3 I had lot's of log entries like this:
"Unable to login to SN: Couldn't resolve IP address for:
www.squeezenetwork.com" or
"Unable to get players from SN: Couldn't resolve IP address for:
www.squeezenetwork.com"

Above log entries are after 7.3.4 by the way. I will report back with
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jrichardson
2009-06-23 18:14:16 UTC
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mbonsack;434694 Wrote:
> That's my point; just where can we *get* a version >= 27205? The link
> provided seems to be an older (27120) version.

My bad, next time I should read what I post.

27205 should build and post tonight for all builds.

Check in about 30min as I have just kicked of the Linux build of 27205
If it's successful it should post to the same directory in about 30-40
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mbonsack
2009-06-23 19:37:32 UTC
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jrichardson;434722 Wrote:
> My bad, next time I should read what I post.
>
> 27205 should build and post tonight for all builds.
>
> Check in about 30min as I have just kicked of the Linux build of 27205
> If it's successful it should post to the same directory in about 30-40
> minutes

Well, the SqueezeNetwork DNS errors seem to have gone away with this
new build, but I'm still getting errors from a popular plugin:

2009-06-23 12:25:21 squeezecenter_safe started.
[09-06-23 12:26:04.8899] main::init (270) Starting SqueezeCenter
(v7.3.4, r27205, Tue Jun 23 11:50:45 PDT 2009)
[09-06-23 12:26:28.7872]
Plugins::SuperDateTime::Plugin::gotErrorViaHTTP (5018) error getting
http://www.weather.com/weather/local/92067
[09-06-23 12:26:28.7879]
Plugins::SuperDateTime::Plugin::gotErrorViaHTTP (5019) Couldn't resolve
IP address for: www.weather.com
[09-06-23 12:26:33.7972]
Plugins::SuperDateTime::Plugin::gotErrorViaHTTP (5018) error getting
http://www.weather.com/weather/local/92067
[09-06-23 12:26:33.7979]
Plugins::SuperDateTime::Plugin::gotErrorViaHTTP (5019) Couldn't resolve
IP address for: www.weather.com
[09-06-23 12:26:38.8072]
Plugins::SuperDateTime::Plugin::gotErrorViaHTTP (5018) error getting
http://www.weather.com/weather/local/92067
[09-06-23 12:26:38.8082]
Plugins::SuperDateTime::Plugin::gotErrorViaHTTP (5019) Couldn't resolve
IP address for: www.weather.com
[09-06-23 12:26:43.8172]
Plugins::SuperDateTime::Plugin::gotErrorViaHTTP (5018) error getting
http://www.weather.com/weather/local/92067
[09-06-23 12:26:43.8180]
Plugins::SuperDateTime::Plugin::gotErrorViaHTTP (5019) Couldn't resolve
IP address for: www.weather.com
[09-06-23 12:26:43.8186]
Plugins::SuperDateTime::Plugin::gotErrorViaHTTP (5023) Network error
count reached during getWeather.
[09-06-23 12:26:54.6082] Plugins::SuperDateTime::Plugin::doneDrawing
(3590) Data refresh completed with errors.

The answer to the obvious question regarding the ability to resolve
www.weather.com on this machine is "yes". Do I need to contact the
plugin author regarding this?


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jrichardson
2009-06-23 19:38:36 UTC
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mbonsack;434744 Wrote:
> Well, the SqueezeNetwork DNS errors seem to have gone away with this new
> build, but I'm still getting errors from a popular plugin:
>
> The answer to the obvious question regarding the ability to resolve
> www.weather.com on this machine is "yes". Do I need to contact the
> plugin author regarding this?

Yes, they need to modify the plug-in to function properly with 7.3.3(4)


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Druboo
2009-06-23 19:43:29 UTC
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jrichardson;434722 Wrote:
> My bad, next time I should read what I post.
>
> 27205 should build and post tonight for all builds.
>
> Check in about 30min as I have just kicked of the Linux build of 27205
> If it's successful it should post to the same directory in about 30-40
> minutes

27205 installed on ubuntu 9.04 server which had previously reported
issues.

Extensions downloader repos now loading correctly and softsqueze
playing R2 fine without an SC restart. Thank you.

Do I trust it enough to set a radio alarm on my Boom for the morning
:-S (Server wakes up 10 mins before alarm due to go off)


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@ mbonsack

My SuperTimeDate seems to be functioning as well.


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KoxxBoxx
2009-06-23 20:19:32 UTC
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Well, upgrading to 7.3.4 - 27205 didn't seem to do the trick for me. I
still get log entries like this:

2009-06-23 22:08:47 squeezecenter_safe started.
[09-06-23 22:08:52.7661] main::init (270) Starting SqueezeCenter
(v7.3.4, r27205, Tue Jun 23 11:50:45 PDT 2009)
[09-06-23 22:08:57.4069] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::init (93) No DNS
servers responded, you may have problems with network requests.
[09-06-23 22:09:06.4903] Slim::Utils::Firmware::downloadAsyncError
(546) Warning: Firmware: Failed to download
http://update.squeezenetwork.com/update/firmware/7.3.4/jive.version
(Couldn't resolve IP address for: update.squeezenetwork.com), will try
again in 10 minutes.
[09-06-23 22:09:26.2598] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (223)
Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist: Couldn't
resolve IP address for: www.dr.dk.
[09-06-23 22:09:31.2776] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (223)
Error: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist: Couldn't
resolve IP address for: wmscr1.dr.dk.
[09-06-23 22:09:31.4908] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (455)
Unable to login to SN: Couldn't resolve IP address for:
www.squeezenetwork.com
[09-06-23 22:09:31.4910] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error
(182) Unable to login to SqueezeNetwork, sync is disabled: Couldn't
resolve IP address for: www.squeezenetwork.com
[09-06-23 22:09:31.4913] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error
(192) SqueezeNetwork sync init failed: Couldn't resolve IP address for:
www.squeezenetwork.com, will retry in 1200

The contents of my /etc/resolv.conf:

# Generated by NetworkManager
nameserver 89.150.129.4
nameserver 89.150.129.10


I run SC on my desktop computer, so having to restart it manually is
not really a big deal. Would be nice to see the problem solved, though.


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Koxx: please update the bug with that information


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2009-06-24 05:48:51 UTC
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27205 still not available at your link???


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jrichardson
2009-06-24 16:12:23 UTC
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judkins;434859 Wrote:
> 27205 still not available at your link???

Just checked, all OS versions are available at the link provided.
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.3


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2009-06-24 16:27:54 UTC
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Last.fm still doesn't work with this build.


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jrichardson
2009-06-24 16:33:10 UTC
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citoyen;435019 Wrote:
> Last.fm still doesn't work with this build.

Please get a log file with Plugin.LastFM set to DEBUG - then ATTACH the
log file to the bug please. don't 'paste' it to the comment, upload the
whole file


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Letten
2009-06-24 16:59:56 UTC
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Why all this internet activity (www.squeezenetwork.com)? I see this in
my log exactly every 5 minutes:

[09-06-24 18:51:46.2497] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::resolve (150)
Starting async DNS lookup for [www.squeezenetwork.com] using server(s)
[212.242.40.3, 212.242.40.51]
[09-06-24 18:51:46.2778] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::_dns_read (248)
Resolved www.squeezenetwork.com to 89.202.121.131 (ttl 17), request took
27 ms
[09-06-24 18:56:46.0027] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::resolve (150)
Starting async DNS lookup for [www.squeezenetwork.com] using server(s)
[212.242.40.3, 212.242.40.51]
[09-06-24 18:56:46.0483] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::_dns_read (248)
Resolved www.squeezenetwork.com to 89.202.121.131 (ttl 18), request took
44 ms

I'm not even playing any music at this time and if I do it's local
files. I never use squeezenetwork.


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judkins
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jrichardson;435012 Wrote:
> Just checked, all OS versions are available at the link provided.
> http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.3

After installing 7.3.4 I got Internetaccess on all my machines besides
the one where sc is installed (my server). After a reboot of this server
now all machines have web access and sc runs with no problems, sn access
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ian_heys
2009-06-25 10:23:42 UTC
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I too have this problem on Ubuntu 9.04.

There is a temporary workround from within the ServerPowerControl
plugin which can make "Restart SqueezeCenter" a menu option on your SB
players.

I would rather stay with the Stable Main (7.3.3) repo in the apt repos
- can you confirm that when a solution is found it will be posted as an
update in that repo?


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2009-06-25 21:15:58 UTC
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Hi all,

I'm running 7.3.3 on Ubuntu 8.10 and noticed the same problem with
failure to resolve addresses after rebooting the server.

Restarting the SqueezeCenter helps.

Then I tried to to change the start order of the SqueezeCenter start up
script and it seems to solve my problem.

# sudo update-rc.d -f squeezecenter remove
# sudo update-rc.d -f squeezecenter defaults 60 60

Adjust your start and stop numbers to somewhere after network processes
has been started.

Hope that helps someone.


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KoxxBoxx
2009-06-27 17:16:06 UTC
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stratoos;435416 Wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm running 7.3.3 on Ubuntu 8.10 and noticed the same problem with
> failure to resolve addresses after rebooting the server.
>
> Restarting the SqueezeCenter helps.
>
> Then I tried to to change the start order of the SqueezeCenter start up
> script and it seems to solve my problem.
>
> # sudo update-rc.d -f squeezecenter remove
> # sudo update-rc.d -f squeezecenter defaults 60 60
>
> Adjust your start and stop numbers to somewhere after network processes
> has been started.
>
> Hope that helps someone.

I tried this but to no avail (I went as high as 90 before I gave up and
reverted to the default 20 20). I then did a bit of more or less random
googling and eventually came across this page:

http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-manually-set-up-your-wired.html

I followed the guide, crossed my fingers, rebooted and ... voila,
streaming radio, online services, scrobbling etc. worked right out of
the box without me having to restart SC.

I'm a total amateur when it comes to networking but to me it looks like
network-manager could be the culprit. Personally I don't need it since
my SC machine always runs on a wired connection, but I'll do some
digging and see if I can find a magic, hidden button that makes SC work
with network-manager enabled.


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KoxxBoxx;435897 Wrote:
> I tried this but to no avail (I went as high as 90 before I gave up and
> reverted to the default 20 20). I then did a bit of more or less random
> googling and eventually came across this page:
>
> http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-manually-set-up-your-wired.html
>
> I followed the guide, crossed my fingers, rebooted and ... voila,
> streaming radio, online services, scrobbling etc. worked right out of
> the box without me having to restart SC.
>
> I'm a total amateur when it comes to networking but to me it looks like
> network-manager could be the culprit. Personally I don't need it since
> my SC machine always runs on a wired connection, but I'll do some
> digging and see if I can find a magic, hidden button that makes SC work
> with network-manager enabled.

I installed Squeezecenter 7.3.4 - 27205 on Ubuntu 8.10, but still had
problems with radio and other issues pointed out in this thread. As
suggested in Koxxboxx's post followed the instructions at the site
mentioned and the problem seems to be fixed. The critical step was
adding the correct DNS address at my ISP to /etc/resolv.conf. I am
behind a wireless bridge and the only entry in /etc/resolv.conf was to
the wireless bridge itself.


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GillesfromBelgium
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In fact, impossible to listen to Radio Paradise (can't resolve ip I
don't know what...).

Impossible to browse to the internet radios on the web interface, the
only item on the Radio menu is 'Tune In Url' But don't work. So I've try
through squeezenetwork. Don't work.

So to listen to my favorite radio station, I've downgrade to 7.3.2

Squeezebox made for the masses ?! No IT engineers.

Gilles.


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GillesfromBelgium;437696 Wrote:
> In fact, impossible to listen to Radio Paradise (can't resolve ip I
> don't know what...).
>
> Impossible to browse to the internet radios on the web interface, the
> only item on the Radio menu is 'Tune In Url' But don't work. So I've try
> through squeezenetwork. Don't work.
>
> So to listen to my favorite radio station, I've downgrade to 7.3.2
>
> Squeezebox made for the masses ?! No IT engineers.
>
> Gilles.

Did you try 7.3.4 as suggested in the forum thread?


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soulboy
2009-07-03 19:26:43 UTC
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Dear Logitech,

This post is a humble request to fix an issue (the DNS thing) rather
than point to nightly builds or other fixes when there is obviously
something wrong on several (or all?) builds. And browsing the other
threads, there seems to be a large number of other issues with 7.3.3.

I have been happy with my revised setup: Asus EEE Box running Ubuntu
9.04 headless from day one. No issues. This is the way I wanted it to
be. I just want to listen to my music. I just want the rest of my family
to be able to listen to what they want. It was immaculate, it was just
running: Until I upgraded to 7.3.3

Before working on other things can't you just fix what was running fine
until now?

Best regards
S


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On Jul 3, 2009, at 3:26 PM, soulboy wrote:

>
> Dear Logitech,
>
> This post is a humble request to fix an issue (the DNS thing) rather
> than point to nightly builds or other fixes when there is obviously
> something wrong on several (or all?) builds. And browsing the other
> threads, there seems to be a large number of other issues with 7.3.3.
>
> I have been happy with my revised setup: Asus EEE Box running Ubuntu
> 9.04 headless from day one. No issues. This is the way I wanted it to
> be. I just want to listen to my music. I just want the rest of my
> family
> to be able to listen to what they want. It was immaculate, it was just
> running: Until I upgraded to 7.3.3
>
> Before working on other things can't you just fix what was running
> fine
> until now?

Doesn't 7.3.4 fix the issue?
soulboy
2009-07-03 19:54:33 UTC
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Dear Andy,

thanks for promt response - impressed!

Well, maybe it does. I haven't tried yet since 7.3.4 is not in the deb
repo.

You see this is what I mean. You have got an excellent product and it
has progressed to a fantastic level. And I have been so happy that the
server just runs and from time to time I just "sudo apt-get update" and
"sudo apt-get upgrade" to get the all the latest goods. So pointing to a
nighly to be able to have the functionality that most of us take for
granted (and are used to from earlier versions) is, at least in my mind,
not quite right. Do you get my drift?

Anyway, glad to have some response and hoping for good news in the next
official release. Guess I will give 7.3.4 a go anyway just hope it won't
mess up anything new.

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...just upgraded to squeezecenter_7.3.4~27392_all.deb but unfortunately
no change.

All radio stations gone except for Alien BBC. But trying to play
something from Alien BBC i just get this "canät resolve host..."

What's even worse: Tried to roll back to 7.3.2 but had some dependency
issues so now I am stuck...

Getting all radio to work is still possible if I stop and start the
server (by bringing out my computer, accessisng the server through
putty, bla, bla bla...) But that is not the reason why i have chosen
this setup. Doing this I could as well listen to the music using my
laptop and this is not the reason why I have the squeecebox (and
planning to get more units).

I don't want to be the whining bxxxh on the forums but please solve
this so it can work as it was intended.

Web radio and Alien BBC in particular is maybe the USP for the
Squeezebox over other similar systems in my opinion.

Have a nice evening (and to all of you across the big pond happy 4th of
July)

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soulboy;437762 Wrote:
> Dear Andy,
>
> thanks for promt response - impressed!
>
> Well, maybe it does. I haven't tried yet since 7.3.4 is not in the deb
> repo.
>
> You see this is what I mean. You have got an excellent product and it
> has progressed to a fantastic level. And I have been so happy that the
> server just runs and from time to time I just "sudo apt-get update" and
> "sudo apt-get upgrade" to get the all the latest goods. So pointing to a
> nighly to be able to have the functionality that most of us take for
> granted (and are used to from earlier versions) is, at least in my mind,
> not quite right. Do you get my drift?
>
> Anyway, glad to have some response and hoping for good news in the next
> official release. Guess I will give 7.3.4 a go anyway just hope it won't
> mess up anything new.
>
> /s

+1 Many thanks for this clear message about this problem.

Gilles.


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citoyen
2009-07-03 21:13:31 UTC
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My DNS issues are still there with 7.3.4. From browsing these forums
it's unclear to me whether the Logitech staff has correctly identified
the issue.

Several people describe my issues (unable to get DNS server) but I have
yet to see a reassuring message from a Logitech staffer indicating that
solving this is a top priority and will be fixed soon.


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soulboy
2009-07-03 21:15:44 UTC
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happy to see I am not alone in this.

If any of you with more skills than me can contribute to a solution
here is the a part from my log that shows what happends every time I
boot up my server:

================================

2009-02-21 22:18:00 squeezecenter_safe started.
[09-02-21 22:18:15.3677] Slim::Networking::Async::DNS::init (102)
Warning: No DNS servers responded, falling back to OpenDNS.
[09-02-21 22:18:20.2726] Slim::Utils::PluginManager::enablePlugins
(419) Couldn't load Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin. Error:
Plugin-programmet är inte kompatibelt med din plattform.
[09-02-21 22:29:08.6942] Slim::Control::XMLBrowser::_cliQuery_error
(1088) Error: While retrieving
[http://www.squeezenetwork.com/api/amazon/v1/opml]: [A SqueezeNetwork
account is required for this service. Please access SqueezeCenter
Settings -> SqueezeNetwork with a web browser to configure.]
2009-02-22 01:06:34 squeezecenter_safe stopped.

================================

And as I wrote before: A server start and stop solves it...

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2009-07-03 21:05:07 UTC
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jrichardson;437699 Wrote:
> Did you try 7.3.4 as suggested in the forum thread?

No. And I won't (see Soulboy problems).

Best regards,

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Buz
2009-07-04 09:58:49 UTC
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jrichardson;437699 Wrote:
> Did you try 7.3.4 as suggested in the forum thread?
Yes. Did you try correcting the bug as suggested in the forum thread?

In other words: removed 7.3.2, installed 7.3.4~27392, DNS problem still
exists. Installed 7.3.2 yet again.

Gettin' bored,
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phealy
2009-07-04 22:49:23 UTC
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I found this same dns problem after reboot on a new installation of
Jaunty.
But my original server on Hardy does not exhibit this bug (#'s 12487 &
12475) even using the same squeezecenter release. Some data is posted
below, but I noticed the Perl version change from 5.8.8 to 5.10.0.
Could this be the cause? I haven't tried 7.3.4 yet, but I'm hopeful this
info is useful to someone.
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Ubuntu 9.04
Linux atom 2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 22:12:12 UTC
2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
SqueezeCenter Status (with bug #12487 & 12475)
Version: 7.3.3 - 27044 @ Mon Jun 15 15:12:32 PDT 2009
Hostname: atom
Server IP Address: 192.168.0.2
Server HTTP Port Number: 9000
Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8
Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux
Perl Version: 5.10.0 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi
MySQL Version: 5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2
Total Players Recognized: 2

Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS
Linux rigel 2.6.24-24-generic #1 SMP Tue Jun 30 19:54:36 UTC 2009
x86_64 GNU/Linux
SqueezeCenter Status (no bug -- works fine after reboot)
Version: 7.3.3 - 27044 @ Mon Jun 15 15:12:32 PDT 2009
Hostname: rigel
IP: 192.168.0.4
HTTP Port: 9000
OS: Debian - EN - utf8
Platform: x86_64-linux
Perl Version: 5.8.8 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi
MySQL Version: 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.4
Total Players Recognized: 1


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exxazz
2009-07-05 09:34:29 UTC
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Getting tired of all Squeezebox stuff and the latest upgrade probably
have made the family to make me throw it out.
Constant issues. Radio takes for ever to start. Sync becomes out of
sync after a while.
We are now running on the third set up of wireless network and no
change. Still the same crap.
We have tested maybe six different adsl-modems and more than ten
routers. Same crap.
My neighbor who is an apple-rep showed me his set up last night and
that's what I will get. No more non-functioning, family-upseting stuff
called Squeezebox. The only Squeeze you get is the feeling in the body
when it again doesn't work!

Bye, bye


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exxazz
2009-07-05 09:44:33 UTC
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exxazz;438123 Wrote:
> Getting tired of all Squeezebox stuff and the latest upgrade probably
> have made the family to make me throw it out.
> Constant issues. Radio takes for ever to start. Sync becomes out of
> sync after a while.
> We are now running on the third set up of wireless network and no
> change. Still the same crap.
> We have tested maybe six different adsl-modems and more than ten
> routers. Same crap.
> My neighbor who is an apple-rep showed me his set up last night and
> that's what I will get. No more non-functioning, family-upseting stuff
> called Squeezebox. The only Squeeze you get is the feeling in the body
> when it again doesn't work!
>
> Bye, bye


And in addition, the Squeeze center won't start and I get three error
messages when I try to unistall...
Obsession with perfection is a fine thing - if only Logitech would have
it as well...


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Bearfaced
2009-07-06 22:46:49 UTC
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Wow, I thought I was the only one with these probs and although I'm
sorry that you're all experiencing the same issue I'm sort of glad it
isn't just me.

Unfortunately the problem still exists even though I updated to
Version: 7.3.4 - 27392 today on my Ubuntu 9.04 box.
Squeezebox firmware is now 127
My Wireless access point is a Belkin N150 although I'm sure that's not
the model number, however the SqueezeCenter PC is hardwired to my BT
homehub.

Restarting SqueezeCenter cures the problem until the PC is switched off
or rebooted.


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jrichardson
2009-07-06 22:56:38 UTC
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Bearfaced;438561 Wrote:
> Wow, I thought I was the only one with these probs and although I'm
> sorry that you're all experiencing the same issue I'm sort of glad it
> isn't just me.
>
> Unfortunately the problem still exists even though I updated to
> Version: 7.3.4 - 27392 today on my Ubuntu 9.04 box.
> Squeezebox firmware is now 127
> My Wireless access point is a Belkin N150 although I'm sure that's not
> the model number, however the SqueezeCenter PC is hardwired to my BT
> homehub.
>
> Restarting SqueezeCenter cures the problem until the PC is switched off
> or rebooted.

Please call Technical Support with these issues, they can help you
diagnose and fix the issue


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Bearfaced
2009-07-06 23:29:39 UTC
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jrichardson;438562 Wrote:
> Please call Technical Support with these issues, they can help you
> diagnose and fix the issue

I know what you're saying but as long as I know a work around
(restarting SqueezeCenter) then I'm OK - I am using beta software after
all so I'm well aware of the risks :o)

I just hope that my information can help the developers out.

Cheers
Justin


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DirkB
2009-07-07 09:21:52 UTC
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Hello,

I'm suffering from the same problem for days and days now, so after no
successful solution in the forums, I tried describing my problem to
Logitech Technical Support. The answer I got was "we do not support
Synology, please check the forums" (my Squeezecenter is running on a
Synology NAS).
If anybody from Logitechs support team PLEASE can have a thorough look
of this issue that is affecting many once happy, now unhappy users, and
produce a "how to" guide or new build that fixes the issue for once and
for all...


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jrichardson
2009-07-07 22:10:20 UTC
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DirkB;438624 Wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm suffering from the same problem for days and days now, so after no
> successful solution in the forums, I tried describing my problem to
> Logitech Technical Support. The answer I got was "we do not support
> Synology, please check the forums" (my Squeezecenter is running on a
> Synology NAS).
> If anybody from Logitechs support team PLEASE can have a thorough look
> of this issue that is affecting many once happy, now unhappy users, and
> produce a "how to" guide or new build that fixes the issue for once and
> for all...

Please ask your question in the 3rd Party Hardware section of the
forum. You can get support from people there that also use the Synology
NAS


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nowork
2009-07-08 12:23:34 UTC
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Hi,

I too have problems with "can't resolve IP address" that continue even
with the 7.3.4. The IP issues can always be resolved for me, by
restarting the squeezecenter service (running on linux/fedors).

I posted on this http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63758.

I believe the problem is that squeezecenter starts before the IP
address of the server has been fully bound to the network
adapter/network.

My workaround is delay the start of the squeezecenter service until
(actually to force a restart) after the server-computer is fully
attached and communicating with the network.

Hope this is helpful


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ericj
2009-07-08 12:32:43 UTC
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I just updated to
Version: 7.3.4 - 27392 @ Wed Jul 8 03:00:05 PDT 2009

and this initiated the DNS error reported in this thread.
Host system had no DNS problem, and restarting the server fixed the
problem.
It appears that the diagnosis about Squeezecenter starting before the
DNS is applied is correct. I hope this is sufficient for logitech to
provide a fix.


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call-151
2009-07-08 17:17:46 UTC
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After upgrading to 7.3.3 on an Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04, a persistent error
message would occur that says šunable to resolve www.bbc.co.uk/..."
whenever I tried to access any of the program in the AlienBBC plugin.
The same dns error would occur when the RSS screen saver is activated as
well.

The following may help to temporarily resolve (till the next reboot),
the various error without requiring an upgrade:

a) sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
nameserver 192.168.1.1 # my default gateway change to yours
nameserver 208.67.222.222 #openDNS
nameserver 208.67.220.220 #openDNS

b) sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart

c) sudo /etc/init.d/squeezecenter restart

As the resolv.conf file is dynamically generated, this is good till the
next reboot. Not sure if it is a good idea, but I think you can prevent
the update by commenting out make_resolve_conf() in
/etc/dhcp3/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/resolvconf

Am sure there is a more persistent way of working around the problem,
but at least this works for me now. Hopefully, this may help someone but
also lead to a more permanent solution.


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jimbres
2009-07-08 19:18:16 UTC
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I'm currently running 7.3.4-27392 on Ubuntu 9.04, & I think that I may
have found a solution: replace Ubuntu's network manager with wicd. (My
server's connection to the router is wired.)

Follow this link for more information: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/


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soulboy
2009-07-12 22:38:35 UTC
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Hi all,

Been off for a weeks holliday hoping that this would have been solved
now... It's not. Last nights 7.3.4 still doesn't work - only a server
restart does. I am relly not eager to start messing with my servers'
network settings since everything else is working fine.

Dear Logitech staff... Any logs you need or what can we poor
DNSissuesufferingbastards do?

/s


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Andy Grundman
2009-07-13 01:01:24 UTC
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On Jul 12, 2009, at 6:38 PM, soulboy wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> Been off for a weeks holliday hoping that this would have been solved
> now... It's not. Last nights 7.3.4 still doesn't work - only a server
> restart does. I am relly not eager to start messing with my servers'
> network settings since everything else is working fine.
>
> Dear Logitech staff... Any logs you need or what can we poor
> DNSissuesufferingbastards do?

This only happens right after you start up your server, right? Do you
restart your Linux server often? If so, why?
peterbell
2009-07-13 07:01:57 UTC
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andyg;440116 Wrote:
> This only happens right after you start up your server, right? Do you
> restart your Linux server often? If so, why?

I don't restart my server very often, but the local power company do
... sometimes several times a day. My poor UPS gets exercised quite
frequently, but it can only hold the power up for a few minutes.

One of the problems here in the Philippines is that a lot of the
infrastructure is based on 1950s American technology.


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jolondon
2009-07-13 11:07:42 UTC
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I am having the exact same problem. After the upgrade to 7.3 my system
can't resolve the ip address. The logs are filled with messages. How
can I resolve this?


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soulboy
2009-07-13 19:51:19 UTC
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Do I restart it often? Well... Since I haven't figured out how to get my
disc to spin down when running it headless I prefer to have it off
during the day when I am not at home. I see no point in keeping it on
consuming power just because of the Dns issue...

Thanks for asking though, but, dear Andy, I can not understand how that
question is relevant. If your aim is to provide the best music system on
the market you seriously have to fix these kind of issues. Squeezecenter
and all has to be more problem free than this. I am a fairly technically
minded guy. I have owned a computer since 1981, that is 29 years... And
I would under normal circumstances say that I am ok dealing with them.
With this in mind I am getting more and more frustrated with Squeezebox.
It has to be easier than this. It has to be more problem free. There is
no way you will be able to succed, to take market share, to be a
substantial player in a possible future as long as it is this
complicated getting thing to runs smooth. Especially since you obviously
have broken something which was running.

I have recommended Squeezebox to many friends and a large number of
them have followed my advice. I don't want to regret beeing a paying
customer and I don't want to regret telling them to invest.

Please find the root of the problem of the DNS issue and fix it! Don't
question if we restart the server too often.

/s

Running "Version: 7.3.4 - 27488 @ Sun Jul 12 03:00:05 PDT 2009" and not
happy about it.

Besides... trying to revert to 7.3.2 fails due to several dependency
issues now that I have been on then 7.3.4 nightlies...


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ricercare
2009-07-14 14:42:47 UTC
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After upgrade to latest SC DNS lookup fails for Internet radio etc. A
restart of SC fixes it once the server (linux) has finished booting.


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jimbres
2009-07-14 20:26:54 UTC
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If you're running Ubuntu, you should replace the Ubuntu network manager
with wicd. This will probably solve your problem. For 9.04 users, a
simple "sudo apt-get intstall wicd" will do the trick. Others will first
have to add the wicd repository to their sources list.

I did this a week ago & have had no DNS lookup problems since then. Try
it & then let us know if it helped.

Although I can't prove it, I suspect that the real culprit is not SC
but a change that Ubuntu made to its network manager in late May.


soulboy;440319 Wrote:
> Do I restart it often? Well... Since I haven't figured out how to get my
> disc to spin down when running it headless I prefer to have it off
> during the day when I am not at home. I see no point in keeping it on
> consuming power just because of the Dns issue...
>
> Thanks for asking though, but, dear Andy, I can not understand how that
> question is relevant. If your aim is to provide the best music system on
> the market you seriously have to fix these kind of issues. Squeezecenter
> and all has to be more problem free than this. I am a fairly technically
> minded guy. I have owned a computer since 1981, that is 29 years... And
> I would under normal circumstances say that I am ok dealing with them.
> With this in mind I am getting more and more frustrated with Squeezebox.
> It has to be easier than this. It has to be more problem free. There is
> no way you will be able to succed, to take market share, to be a
> substantial player in a possible future as long as it is this
> complicated getting thing to runs smooth. Especially since you obviously
> have broken something which was running.
>
> I have recommended Squeezebox to many friends and a large number of
> them have followed my advice. I don't want to regret beeing a paying
> customer and I don't want to regret telling them to invest.
>
> Please find the root of the problem of the DNS issue and fix it! Don't
> question if we restart the server too often.
>
> /s
>
> Running "Version: 7.3.4 - 27488 @ Sun Jul 12 03:00:05 PDT 2009" and not
> happy about it.
>
> Besides... trying to revert to 7.3.2 fails due to several dependency
> issues now that I have been on then 7.3.4 nightlies...


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NigelC
2009-07-16 12:13:16 UTC
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I'm using Ubuntu 9.04, so tried installing wicd. I used the Synaptic
Package manager and it found wicd 1.5.9. This installed OK, but does not
automatically connect to the wired network at startup. It will manually
connect OK. I have ticked the "Automatically reconnect on connection
loss" option, but still no joy.

Any suggestions on how to tell wicd to connect at startup?


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peterbell
2009-07-16 13:40:08 UTC
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In the Wicd Manager, under the 'Network' 'tab', expand the 'Wired
Network' entry (in my case, this is the only entry). In here, do you
have 'Use as default profile' ticked?


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ricercare
2009-07-17 07:37:26 UTC
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jimbres;440643 Wrote:
>
> Although I can't prove it, I suspect that the real culprit is not SC
> but a change that Ubuntu made to its network manager in late May.

I, for one, am not running Ubuntu, and I suspect many having problems
here aren't either...


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dip
2009-07-17 07:56:00 UTC
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I am running SC 7.3.4 on Ubuntu 9.04 and have the same problem. When SC
is started automatically after boot, all internet related features do
not work. That includes Extension Downloader, Internet Radio (the
corresponding main menu entry is even not available), setting username
and password for squeezenetwork on the SC settings page and so on.

As soon as I stop and restart SC manually everything works fine.


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d_c_h_w
2009-07-17 08:38:34 UTC
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dip;441272 Wrote:
> I am running SC 7.3.4 on Ubuntu 9.04 and have the same problem. When SC
> is started automatically after boot, all internet related features do
> not work. That includes Extension Downloader, Internet Radio (the
> corresponding main menu entry is even not available), setting username
> and password for squeezenetwork on the SC settings page and so on.
>
> As soon as I stop and restart SC manually everything works fine.

Same symptoms as mine and I'm running Fedora 10


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dip
2009-07-17 09:52:19 UTC
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Is there an actual bug report for this? I found only 'bug 12475'
(http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12475) describing this
problem, but it has status RESOLVED/FIXED (which is obviously not true).


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jimbres
2009-07-17 13:09:00 UTC
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Sorry. I was under the mistaken impression that this issue was specific
to Ubuntu.

I recently installed ClarkConnect 5.0, & I just noticed that when I
boot into CC, I don't see a full menu of Internet radio choices.
Restarting SC fixes that.

So you're right - Ubuntu users aren't the only ones affected by this.


ricercare;441267 Wrote:
> I, for one, am not running Ubuntu, and I suspect many having problems
> here aren't either...


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minky
2009-07-17 15:03:26 UTC
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Check your service start order. My SC does not work fot internet stuff
until nscd is running.

Maybe yours doesn't start until after SC, but by the time you do a
stop/start of SC the nscd process is there???


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2009-07-17 18:06:45 UTC
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There is no nscd installed on my system.


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ricercare
2009-07-17 21:21:30 UTC
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minky;441365 Wrote:
> Check your service start order. My SC does not work fot internet stuff
> until nscd is running.
>
> Maybe yours doesn't start until after SC, but by the time you do a
> stop/start of SC the nscd process is there???

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm running SC on Vortexbox btw. Should an
update to the latestet SC have changed the order in which ther services
start?


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dip
2009-07-18 12:34:33 UTC
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As previously mentioned, there is no nscd installed on my ubuntu 9.04.
However, there are running two dns related services, pppd-dns and
dns-clean, which are started with priority 70 while squeezecenter is
started before them with priority 20.

I now changed in BUM squeezecenter priority to 80 to ensure that it is
started after most of the other services and now the dns related
problems are gone.


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Andy Grundman
2009-07-18 14:26:46 UTC
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On Jul 18, 2009, at 8:34 AM, dip wrote:

>
> As previously mentioned, there is no nscd installed on my ubuntu 9.04.
> However, there are running two dns related services, pppd-dns and
> dns-clean, which are started with priority 70 while squeezecenter is
> started before them with priority 20.
>
> I now changed in BUM squeezecenter priority to 80 to ensure that it is
> started after most of the other services and now the dns related
> problems are gone.

Good news. Would someone be able to look at the deb/rpm packages we
are shipping and determine if there is something in there we can fix
to change when SC starts?

http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/slim/7.3/trunk/platforms/debian/
http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/slim/7.3/trunk/platforms/redhat/
kennyschiff
2009-07-18 17:18:48 UTC
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I installed the package for Version: 7.3.4 - 27488. I tried playing
Internet radio without rebooting (after install), and it just worked. I
rebooted, and it is still working. Seems "resolved" for me.


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2009-07-18 18:51:28 UTC
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Hi again,

I am using Ubuntu 9.04 and have the DNS issue on 7.3.4 - 27488 from
"testing" repository.

However...

# sudo update-rc.d -f squeezecenter remove
# sudo update-rc.d -f squeezecenter defaults 60 60

Fixes the issue for me (on 7.3.4)

/s

ps. I tested going back to 7.3.3 and changing start up time but for me
it doesn't work. This fix only worked when I am on 7.3.4.ds


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citoyen
2009-07-19 09:20:05 UTC
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dip;441591 Wrote:
> I now changed in BUM squeezecenter priority to 80 to ensure that it is
> started after most of the other services and now the dns related
> problems are gone.

I have BUM installed, and I suppose I have to turn on the advanced
mode. What should I do next? (Thanks)


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dip
2009-07-19 20:39:01 UTC
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citoyen;441761 Wrote:
> I have BUM installed, and I suppose I have to turn on the advanced mode.
> What should I do next? (Thanks)After having turned on advanced mode, on the top of the window a new tab
"services" (in my German version of ubuntu it reads "Dienste") will
appear. Change to this tab and scroll down until you see "squeezenter".
Right click on the squeezecenter line and select "change start/stop
priority". Select 80 for both entries and click OK. After a reboot it
should work (at least it did for me).

Good luck


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citoyen
2009-07-20 10:50:32 UTC
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dip;441912 Wrote:
> (...) Select 80 for both entries and click OK. After a reboot it should
> work (at least it did for me).

Weird, it doesn't work. Should I try setting the priority even lower?


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pfd
2009-07-20 16:10:29 UTC
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I'm running Vortexbox, so basically Fedora from the command line, but
have this problem too. Is there a simple fix that I (as a linux novice)
can apply from the command line to edit the order of startup?


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sl789
2009-07-20 22:07:32 UTC
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I HAVE 9.04 AND 7.3.4 - exactly soulboy's config, so I used his advice
and it solves the problem. Thanks for the tip.


Soulboy wrote

Hi again,

I am using Ubuntu 9.04 and have the DNS issue on 7.3.4 - 27488 from
"testing" repository.

However...

# sudo update-rc.d -f squeezecenter remove
# sudo update-rc.d -f squeezecenter defaults 60 60

Fixes the issue for me (on 7.3.4)


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agillis
2009-07-20 23:55:06 UTC
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What I ended up doing is creating a script that makes sure the network
is up then restart SC. This is now part of VortexBox 0.8


Code:
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if ! ping -c 1 -w 5 "google.com" &>/dev/null ; then
for (( ; ; ))
do
sleep 5
if ping -c 1 -w 5 "google.com" &>/dev/null ; then
echo "Network is finally up, Restarting SqueezeCenter..."
service squeezecenter restart
break
fi
done
else
echo "Network is up, no need to restart SqueezeCenter"
fi

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timearp
2009-07-25 23:16:53 UTC
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Evening all. Got the same problem, any way I can help with testing?


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soulboy
2009-08-01 21:49:52 UTC
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...so sorry to say that the fix stopped working on Version: 7.3.4 -
27864. So my previous success with prio 60 doesn't do it any more.
Please Logitech, come up with a fix.

/s


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Kevint
2009-08-03 13:43:25 UTC
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Had the "can't resolve IP address problem" on my Boom this morning when
trying to listen to BBC 5 Live via AlienBBC and iPlayer. Just had time
to check that my internet connection was working and my server seemed
fine before I left the house. I did have to restart my PC yesterday so
I guess I need to stop/start SqueezeCenter to avoid the problem, will
find out tonight.

Running 7.3.3 on XP

Kevin


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Kevint
2009-08-04 12:35:16 UTC
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Kevint;445386 Wrote:
> Had the "can't resolve IP address problem" on my Boom this morning when
> trying to listen to BBC 5 Live via AlienBBC and iPlayer. Just had time
> to check that my internet connection was working and my server seemed
> fine before I left the house. I did have to restart my PC yesterday so
> I guess I need to stop/start SqueezeCenter to avoid the problem, will
> find out tonight.

As expected stopping and restarting Squeezecenter stopped the issue
occurring.


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Mnyb
2009-08-03 14:47:04 UTC
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soulboy;444926 Wrote:
> ...so sorry to say that the fix stopped working on Version: 7.3.4 -
> 27864. So my previous success with prio 60 doesn't do it any more.
> Please Logitech, come up with a fix.
>
> /s

Did you upgrade ? if you upgrade some files get written over and
replaced.
So applying the same fix again migth work, and saving a copy of that
file until next upgrade.


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soulboy
2009-08-06 05:57:31 UTC
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Mnyb;445412 Wrote:
> Did you upgrade ? if you upgrade some files get written over and
> replaced.
> So applying the same fix again migth work, and saving a copy of that
> file until next upgrade.

Re applied after uppgrade so that is not the issue here...

Sad Squeezecenter and Ubuntu won't play...


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kennyschiff
2009-08-06 13:03:45 UTC
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I am running Ubuntu 8.10 and had experienced the IP resolution problem a
few weeks back. At that time, I updated Squeezecenter to a newer nightly
build as discussed here and it "resolved" the problem for several weeks.
Earlier this week I did some routine Ubuntu updates on the box, and when
the box rebooted, I was no longer able to stream Internet radio or
connect to Pandora.

I have since updated to a newer nightly build: Version: 7.3.4 - 27864 @
Wed Aug 5 03:00:05 PDT 2009, and this resolved the problem for me. I can
confirm that I was able to reboot the box after the new install and I
have no IP resolution problems.


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pfink
2009-07-19 21:02:15 UTC
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I was having this same problem on CentOS 4.5 after installing SC 7.3.3.
My SqueezeBoxes wouldn't resolve any internet radio stations after a
reboot unless I restarted SC, although I could revolve the addresses on
the server itself. I changed the starting order of SqueezeCenter so it
started after the BIND (named) daemon and that seemed to fix the
problem.


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