[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Compilation and Various Artists -- Strange Definition of Compilation in LMS

[Web_Engel]

It seems the definition of a „compilation“ in LMS is uncommon.

Wikipedia says:
-A compilation album comprises tracks which are compiled from other
recordings, usually previously released, but sometimes unreleased. The
tracks may be from one or several performers; if from several performers
there may be a theme.-
In other words, a CD with several sessions from one artist is a
compilation. This is also how I understand the term.
This is also how many databases interpret the tag.


LMS defines it differently:
-If a file has explicit 'COMP=1' tags the server recognizes, it will
ALWAYS be classified as a comp/VA album.-
according to
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Various_Artists_logic

As a result, compilations from one artist are shown under “Various
Artists”.

Example:
Artist=”Miles Davis” (for all tracks)
Album=”Birth of the Cool”
Album Artist=”Miles Davis” (for all tracks)
Compilation=1

The tags come directly from 'Allmusic.com'
(http://www.allmusic.com/album/birth-of-the-cool-mw0000111184), tagged
with CDPowerAmp. I think the tags are correct, as this album represents
three recording sessions of this particular style “Cool Jazz” from Miles
Davis.

This album is shown under -Various Artists- in LMS which in my eyes is
wrong.

Surprisingly, many “best of” albums I have are not tagged as
compilations by Allmusic.Com. No clue what the logic from AllMusic is.
Some of the single-artist albums which I recently tagged that have
Compilation=1 are: Johnny Griffin: Big Soul Band; Congregation, Johnny
Griffin Sextet, the little Giant. Jimi Hendrix: The Ultimate
Experience. Not affected (no Compilation tag) are Marvin Gaye: What’s
Going on. Rolling Stones: 40 Licks.

I know I can control displaying compilations with the “Group
Compilations” setting, but if I change this, I would end up with all
1-Hit-Wonders in the list of artists, which is definitely not what I
want.

I could manually move all affected “Compilation” tags to a proprietary
“Compilation_one_artist” tag, but is this really necessary?

The desired behavior is: If Compilation=1 and Album Artist not empty,
then show album under Album Artist and not under Various Artists. Can
this be set somehow?

Any comments on this behavior? I have searched the forum and found
multiple threads regarding compilation but no thread related to this
particular issue.



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[DJanGo]

Hi,

i dont trust nobody who tags Files.

I always check the Tags before i update my Library.

Some wrote Martin L. Gore into Composertag, some M. Gore, some others
Martin Gore - its always the same Guy so i always use "my" Type of Name
for this Contributor.

And others like me would like to see even the -one Hit Wonders Artists
-in the Artistmenü, cause they are Artist(s) in the Library.



Gruss
Jan
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[Michael Herger]

Post by Web_Engel
Any comments on this behavior?

Yes: don't set the compilation flag on albums you don't want to be
listed in Various Artists. The definitions you cited lack the definition
of what the compilation flag in the various tagging systems is supposed
to represent. I doubt there's a norm. And as you said: AllMusic isn't a
reliable reference.

Just use that tag the way you want it to work. Don't rely on other data
sources.

[JJZolx]

I can certainly understand the logic behind calling that type of album a
compilation. And I've seen how All Music uses the designation, which
makes some sense. In their interface you can view an artist's
non-compilation albums, or their compilation albums, or both together.
This is nice for artists who've had dozens of different compilation
albums released. Think Frank Sinatra.

I just tested it out in LMS 7.9. The behavior is a little
screwy/inconsistent (which is common with LMS). I marked several "Best
of" albums with a COMPILATION=1 tag and ALBUMARTIST tags. These
compilations _do_ correctly appear under the artist's name when browsing
by artist. And when browsing by album and sorting by artist name, they
appear in the proper place, sorted by the album artiist's name.

The bug, or inconsistency appears when viewing the albums of Various
Artists, where that album is incorrectly listed.


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[d6jg]

I always delete Compilation tags for just this reason.
I also never tag AlbumArtist as "Various Artists"
So my copy of Birth of the Cool only appears under Miles Davis - this is
ok but could be improved.
My Uncut cover CDs as an example appear under Various Artists and also
under the track artist as LMS recognises albums with multiple artists
but no AlbumArtist as compilations even without the compilations tag.
Returning to Miles Davis. Ideally the album listing under Miles should
be sub divided by Studio, Live & Compilation then listed chronologically
by release date then sub sorted by month of release. Unfortunately we
don't live in an ideal world.
I will live with what I have.



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